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Flanders
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Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:26 am

I didn't mean that those mares were sent into bad situations, I hope they are well loved and cared for by their new connections. Its just sad to see mares that are close to what I consider pensioning age, going through sales.
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Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:35 am

20yo Swap Fliparoo goes through the sale tomorrow for Calumet under a different consignor.
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Flanders wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:26 am I didn't mean that those mares were sent into bad situations, I hope they are well loved and cared for by their new connections. Its just sad to see mares that are close to what I consider pensioning age, going through sales.
Yes, because many/most of them have already done a lot, either on the track or as broodmares (or both), even if they haven't produced any really successful offspring. The sales can be a stressful environment for some and they deserve better in their old age.

You can only hope they land in good hands, like Desert Stormer did when she was offloaded in a sale at age 20. I don't know if she's still alive, but Dell Ridge Farm, where she lives, posted on FB about her 30th birthday in 2020. They said she was babysitting weanlings and hanging out with other pensioned mares, which is the kind of retirement she deserved.
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Flanders wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:35 am 20yo Swap Fliparoo goes through the sale tomorrow for Calumet under a different consignor.
:evil: I know she hasn't done much as a first dam, but her daughter produced Calumet's own Lexitonian. So frustrating.
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mariasmon wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:44 am
Flanders wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:35 am 20yo Swap Fliparoo goes through the sale tomorrow for Calumet under a different consignor.
:evil: I know she hasn't done much as a first dam, but her daughter produced Calumet's own Lexitonian. So frustrating.
I hope she doesn't end like I think tizso? The mare who was in foal to frosted and passed cause she was like 23? Wasn't she paynters or oxbows mom?
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Justahorse wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:57 am
mariasmon wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:44 am
Flanders wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:35 am 20yo Swap Fliparoo goes through the sale tomorrow for Calumet under a different consignor.
:evil: I know she hasn't done much as a first dam, but her daughter produced Calumet's own Lexitonian. So frustrating.
I hope she doesn't end like I think tizso? The mare who was in foal to frosted and passed cause she was like 23? Wasn't she paynters or oxbows mom?
She was Paynter's dam and was 24 when she was sold and died foaling at 25. The people that bought her, bought her to pension her but it unfortunately never had a chance to happen. That was Diamond A that sold her. Owner definitely needed the money, you know being a billionaire and all. I don't know if he is involved in racing anymore, I saw the farm was for sale in the past year, its the former Brookside(Allen Paulson's farm) and hasn't had a start since early 2021. Same with Brad Kelley, got to get those last couple thousand out of a horse instead of pensioning cause being a billionaire is rough.
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Flanders wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:01 am
Justahorse wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:57 am
mariasmon wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:44 am

:evil: I know she hasn't done much as a first dam, but her daughter produced Calumet's own Lexitonian. So frustrating.
I hope she doesn't end like I think tizso? The mare who was in foal to frosted and passed cause she was like 23? Wasn't she paynters or oxbows mom?
She was Paynter's dam and was 24 when she was sold and died foaling at 25. The people that bought her, bought her to pension her but it unfortunately never had a chance to happen. That was Diamond A that sold her. Owner definitely needed the money, you know being a billionaire and all. I don't know if he is involved in racing anymore, I saw the farm was for sale in the past year, its the former Brookside(Allen Paulson's farm) and hasn't had a start since early 2021. Same with Brad Kelley, got to get those last couple thousand out of a horse instead of pensioning cause being a billionaire is rough.
I hate people sometimes. they aren't breeding machines. Poor girl. I hope it ends well for the old girl
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mariasmon wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:44 am
Flanders wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:35 am 20yo Swap Fliparoo goes through the sale tomorrow for Calumet under a different consignor.
:evil: I know she hasn't done much as a first dam, but her daughter produced Calumet's own Lexitonian. So frustrating.

Calumet off loaded Lexitonian to
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mariasmon wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:42 am
Flanders wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:26 am I didn't mean that those mares were sent into bad situations, I hope they are well loved and cared for by their new connections. Its just sad to see mares that are close to what I consider pensioning age, going through sales.
Yes, because many/most of them have already done a lot, either on the track or as broodmares (or both), even if they haven't produced any really successful offspring. The sales can be a stressful environment for some and they deserve better in their old age.

You can only hope they land in good hands, like Desert Stormer did when she was offloaded in a sale at age 20. I don't know if she's still alive, but Dell Ridge Farm, where she lives, posted on FB about her 30th birthday in 2020. They said she was babysitting weanlings and hanging out with other pensioned mares, which is the kind of retirement she deserved.

Someone last year asked on that post if desert stormer was still living and it went unanswered
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Akitaperson wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:17 pm :P
mariasmon wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:44 am
Flanders wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:35 am 20yo Swap Fliparoo goes through the sale tomorrow for Calumet under a different consignor.
:evil: I know she hasn't done much as a first dam, but her daughter produced Calumet's own Lexitonian. So frustrating.

Calumet off loaded Lexitonian to
Last I knew, he was at Calumet. He stood a season or 2 at Lane's End, where he wasn't particularly well-received.
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mariasmon wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:47 pm
Akitaperson wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:17 pm :P
mariasmon wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:44 am

:evil: I know she hasn't done much as a first dam, but her daughter produced Calumet's own Lexitonian. So frustrating.

Shoot my bad I thought I read he got moved I mustve been thinking of another horse

Calumet off loaded Lexitonian to
Last I knew, he was at Calumet. He stood a season or 2 at Lane's End, where he wasn't particularly well-received.
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mariasmon wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:41 am I hate to see a well-bred, classy old mare like Teammate sell for $7,000. Calumet does this a lot.
Ugh. I'm surprised Joseph Allen sold her in the first place, considering her family has done so much for him. Hopefully up in Alberta, she'll go to some better stallions than flippin Calumet sent her to, and then she can live out as a pensioner.
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brunanas wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:56 pm Image
So much “consideration” that he waited until the day of the sale to announce his decision. Wonder if there was lack of interest? Just send him to the horse park and call it a day.
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Northport wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:29 pm
So much “consideration” that he waited until the day of the sale to announce his decision. Wonder if there was lack of interest? Just send him to the horse park and call it a day.
If he's sound enough it might be worth giving him to someone to retrain as a riding horse. He's still a young horse after all.
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Northport wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 2:29 pm
brunanas wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:56 pm Image
So much “consideration” that he waited until the day of the sale to announce his decision. Wonder if there was lack of interest? Just send him to the horse park and call it a day.
I'm pretty confident that lack of interest was probably a pretty good portion of it. He probably wants more money than stud farms are willing to pay even at auction. I also wonder if the owner has seen what Mr z and some of the other stallions have sold for
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Flanders wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:35 am 20yo Swap Fliparoo goes through the sale tomorrow for Calumet under a different consignor.
RNA'd at $47k
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Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:18 pm

HORA sale just started.
The very handsome G3 winner King Fury went for $240k.
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Miss Woodford wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:18 pm HORA sale just started.
The very handsome G3 winner King Fury went for $240k.
I wonder where he's going
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Justahorse wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:26 pm
Miss Woodford wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:18 pm HORA sale just started.
The very handsome G3 winner King Fury went for $240k.
I wonder where he's going

It says Chad Schumer agent so who knows
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