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Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:43 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
Thought I'd start a new thread for the New Year. 8-)

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:44 pm
by tachyon
Christophe Soumillon returns to saddle in South Africa following 60-day ban..

https://www.racingtv.com/news/soumillon ... uth-africa

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:08 pm
by Northport
tachyon wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 8:44 pm Christophe Soumillon returns to saddle in South Africa following 60-day ban..

https://www.racingtv.com/news/soumillon ... uth-africa
Even though Soumillon is currently public enemy #1, him going to South Africa has got to be a huge deal for their local industry. They're trying to claw their way onto the international stage, importing better and better stallions, lobbying constantly for more lenient import/export procedures, but at the end of the day, their prize money is a fraction of that of other major racing nations, except for maybe midweek English racing.

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:32 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
Young rider Avery Whisman has died. No cause of death given in the article. :(
https://paulickreport.com/news/people/y ... y-whisman/

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:35 pm
by Northport
BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:32 pm Young rider Avery Whisman has died. No cause of death given in the article. :(
https://paulickreport.com/news/people/y ... y-whisman/
Bloodhorse published a very touching article about Whisman

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... tid=Zxz2cZ

It doesn’t really elaborate but it sounds like mental health struggles contributed to his passing. Devastating to his family and the industry

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:19 pm
by Flanders
Don't know if I've ever seen this before...
Trainer fined after horses were tattooed under the wrong names. Would have went completely unnoticed if the owner didn't breed the one mare and the foals DNA didn't match.

https://paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/ ... ned-15000/

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:35 pm
by Curtis
Flanders wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 2:19 pm Don't know if I've ever seen this before...
Trainer fined after horses were tattooed under the wrong names. Would have went completely unnoticed if the owner didn't breed the one mare and the foals DNA didn't match.

https://paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/ ... ned-15000/
With Evans spotless record I’m sure it’s just a clerical error. Now that Diodoro relegates his “B” and “C” teams to TUP, there’s room for someone else to take over.

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 8:35 pm
by Missbeholder
Rick Dutrow's suspension is officially served. As the article says, he won't be able to start back up in business for another 2 or 3 months because he has to start the licensing process all over again from scratch.

It's a little hard for me to process that it's been 10 years since he started a horse in a race. I didn't see a post from anybody yet on this, so I thought I'd put one up to try and find out where you all are on his potential return.

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/t ... -his-time/

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:08 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
IMHO, he should have been allowed back years ago.

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:41 pm
by WarBiscuit
BaroqueAgain1 wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 9:08 pm IMHO, he should have been allowed back years ago.
I agree. I think many people passed judgement on him based on his "loud" personality. I can think of a number of trainers who could be classified as unsavory that would make Mr. Dutrow look like a piker. I, for one, will be happy to see him come back.

WarBiscuit

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:44 pm
by TapitsGal
Bafferts horses that are headed for the derby trail and oaks trail have until February 28th to switch barns in order to remain eligible for the points to get into the derby and oaks

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:46 pm
by brunanas
TapitsGal wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:44 pm Bafferts horses that are headed for the derby trail and oaks trail have until February 28th to switch barns in order to remain eligible for the points to get into the derby and oaks
doubt that will stick tbh. he won't let that slide.

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:45 am
by Northport
It stuck last year

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:24 am
by thinair
Northport wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:45 am It stuck last year
...and it will stick this year.

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:01 pm
by Curtis
Northport wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:45 am It stuck last year
What is “it”……..the ban meaning Baffert’s name couldn’t be in the Derby program? I don’t recall any drop dead date. There was an implied date—just before the last preps—so the horses could earn points but I don’t remember any actual stated date.

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:09 pm
by brunanas
Curtis wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:01 pm
Northport wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:45 am It stuck last year
What is “it”……..the ban meaning Baffert’s name couldn’t be in the Derby program? I don’t recall any drop dead date. There was an implied date—just before the last preps—so the horses could earn points but I don’t remember any actual stated date.
yeah this is what i meant. there was no date last year. he won't tolerate having a deadline.

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:11 pm
by Curtis
thinair wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:24 am
Northport wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:45 am It stuck last year
...and it will stick this year.
It’s apples and oranges. Baffert can be on track to watch Tim train this year. The real intrigue will be to see if 20 horses earn points and whether Asmussen’s suspension will affect his horse’s point totals or having his name in the program. The Derby is increasingly incidental, it should be run as a simulation in a courtroom.

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:26 pm
by Diver52
Aren't you supposed to seek medical attention if "it" lasts more than four hours? CDI's for Baffert is going on for two years. (Secondary definition, of course.)

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:30 pm
by thinair
Curtis wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:11 pm
thinair wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:24 am
Northport wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:45 am It stuck last year
...and it will stick this year.
It’s apples and oranges. Baffert can be on track to watch Tim train this year. The real intrigue will be to see if 20 horses earn points and whether Asmussen’s suspension will affect his horse’s point totals or having his name in the program. The Derby is increasingly incidental, it should be run as a simulation in a courtroom.
Is there a translation of this that makes sense? Did someone steal your login?

The Derby will never be incidental.

Re: Jockey & Trainer News 2023

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:50 pm
by BaroqueAgain1
Curtis can be quite sardonic. Also makes note of irony. ;)