The Gelding Thread

[Mylute]

The late Nobody Listens (by Conveyance) has posthumously been named Indiana's HOTY and Champion Indiana-bred Older Male for 2023.
https://paulickreport.com/news/bloodsto ... f-the-year

[Starine]

D. J. Stable Aims for First G1 Turf Win With Webslinger
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... webslinger

[Starine]

Greeley and Ben seeks millionaire status in Fire Plug
https://www.drf.com/news/greeley-and-be ... -fire-plug

Olympic Dreams goes for third straight open-company win
https://www.drf.com/news/olympic-dreams ... ompany-win

[Starine]

Tumbarumba game nose winner of Fred W. Hooper
https://www.drf.com/news/tumbarumba-gam ... d-w-hooper

Sumter gelded, sheds blinkers for Clocker's Corner Stakes
https://www.drf.com/news/sumter-gelded- ... ner-stakes

Turfway Park: Vote No Headlines Early Prep For Jeff Ruby Steaks
https://paulickreport.com/news/triple-c ... uby-steaks

[Starine]

Victor the Winner Upsets Centenary Sprint Cup in HK
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... -cup-in-hk

[Starine]

Irideo ($40.60) and Laprida notch upset in Clocker's Corner Stakes
https://www.drf.com/news/irideo-4060-an ... ner-stakes

[Starine]

Grade 1 Winner Henley's Joy Ends 34-Race Losing Streak
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... ing-streak

Vote No lone stakes winner in Leonatus field
https://www.drf.com/news/vote-no-lone-s ... atus-field

[Starine]

Arrest Me Red tries synthetic for first time in Forego
https://www.drf.com/news/arrest-me-red- ... hts-forego

Touchuponastar goes for repeat in Louisiana Premier Night Championship
https://www.drf.com/news/touchuponastar ... ampionship

Prevalence makes comeback in wide-open turf sprint
https://www.drf.com/news/prevalence-mak ... urf-sprint

[Starine]

Touchuponastar dominates Louisiana Premier Night Championship
https://www.drf.com/news/touchuponastar ... ampionship

Surly Furious outlasts Arrest Me Red in Forego Stakes
https://www.drf.com/news/surly-furious- ... ego-stakes

Goliad leads the way in Thunder Road Stakes
https://www.drf.com/news/goliad-leads-w ... oad-stakes

Trainer Orseno Had High Hopes for Hades From Start
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... from-start

Streaking Skelly points to Riyadh Dirt Sprint for next start
https://www.drf.com/news/streaking-skel ... next-start

Helios Express Wins First Leg of Hong Kong Derby Series
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... rby-series

[Starine]

Goliad on a roll, targets Kilroe Mile
https://www.drf.com/news/goliad-roll-ta ... ilroe-mile

[Starine]

Sibelius Dubai-Bound After Repeat Pelican Score
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... ican-score

[brunanas]

Mighty Heart, Two-Time Horse of the Year, Back at the Track
https://canadianthoroughbred.com/horse- ... track/amp/

Mighty Heart went to Ballycroy Training Centre last spring when it was announced that he would retire. There were offers for the horse to stand in Kentucky, according to Cordes’ daughter Angela Perrin, but the horse had retired sound.
“Larry is getting older and wants to enjoy and watch his horse doing what he loves versus potentially not being able to see his offspring produce,” said Perrin. “He was always sound; he just got some well-deserved time off to be a horse for a bit. He has come back to training thoroughly enjoying what he does and we can’t wait to see what he has to offer as a seven-year-old. There are no high expectations, we just want to let him enjoy doing what he is good at.”

[Flanders]

Mighty Heart, Two-Time Horse of the Year, Back at the Track
https://canadianthoroughbred.com/horse- ... track/amp/

Mighty Heart went to Ballycroy Training Centre last spring when it was announced that he would retire. There were offers for the horse to stand in Kentucky, according to Cordes’ daughter Angela Perrin, but the horse had retired sound.
“Larry is getting older and wants to enjoy and watch his horse doing what he loves versus potentially not being able to see his offspring produce,” said Perrin. “He was always sound; he just got some well-deserved time off to be a horse for a bit. He has come back to training thoroughly enjoying what he does and we can’t wait to see what he has to offer as a seven-year-old. There are no high expectations, we just want to let him enjoy doing what he is good at.”

Something doesn't make sense to me. Okay they want to bring him back to the track cause the owner is older and would rather watch the horse race. Why geld him if there was actually interest in standing him in Kentucky or anywhere, eventually? Gelding him at 7 isn't going to return him to his youthful form, I just don't see the point or reasoning behind it.

[brunanas]

Mighty Heart, Two-Time Horse of the Year, Back at the Track
https://canadianthoroughbred.com/horse- ... track/amp/

Mighty Heart went to Ballycroy Training Centre last spring when it was announced that he would retire. There were offers for the horse to stand in Kentucky, according to Cordes’ daughter Angela Perrin, but the horse had retired sound.
“Larry is getting older and wants to enjoy and watch his horse doing what he loves versus potentially not being able to see his offspring produce,” said Perrin. “He was always sound; he just got some well-deserved time off to be a horse for a bit. He has come back to training thoroughly enjoying what he does and we can’t wait to see what he has to offer as a seven-year-old. There are no high expectations, we just want to let him enjoy doing what he is good at.”

Something doesn't make sense to me. Okay they want to bring him back to the track cause the owner is older and would rather watch the horse race. Why geld him if there was actually interest in standing him in Kentucky or anywhere, eventually? Gelding him at 7 isn't going to return him to his youthful form, I just don't see the point or reasoning behind it.

yeah, i don't understand it either. i wonder if maybe he was test bred and showed fertility issues but if that was the case why wouldn't they just say it? and i get the sentimental value he has to his owner but honestly to me it seems like nowadays he is an allowance horse at best. i was really surprised when i read the article... i hope that if he shows them he has lost his form they retire him permanently no questions asked.

[barbaro111]

Mighty Heart, Two-Time Horse of the Year, Back at the Track
https://canadianthoroughbred.com/horse- ... track/amp/

Mighty Heart went to Ballycroy Training Centre last spring when it was announced that he would retire. There were offers for the horse to stand in Kentucky, according to Cordes’ daughter Angela Perrin, but the horse had retired sound.
“Larry is getting older and wants to enjoy and watch his horse doing what he loves versus potentially not being able to see his offspring produce,” said Perrin. “He was always sound; he just got some well-deserved time off to be a horse for a bit. He has come back to training thoroughly enjoying what he does and we can’t wait to see what he has to offer as a seven-year-old. There are no high expectations, we just want to let him enjoy doing what he is good at.”

Something doesn't make sense to me. Okay they want to bring him back to the track cause the owner is older and would rather watch the horse race. Why geld him if there was actually interest in standing him in Kentucky or anywhere, eventually? Gelding him at 7 isn't going to return him to his youthful form, I just don't see the point or reasoning behind it.

Very strange: I love Mighty Heart- follow all of his races-- I think they are just not being up front about his fertility- why else would they geld him? I don't like to see horses brought back to race after not being successful breeders. I think of George Washington and what a debacle and horror that was.

[Danniwolfe]

Mighty Heart, Two-Time Horse of the Year, Back at the Track
https://canadianthoroughbred.com/horse- ... track/amp/

Mighty Heart went to Ballycroy Training Centre last spring when it was announced that he would retire. There were offers for the horse to stand in Kentucky, according to Cordes’ daughter Angela Perrin, but the horse had retired sound.
“Larry is getting older and wants to enjoy and watch his horse doing what he loves versus potentially not being able to see his offspring produce,” said Perrin. “He was always sound; he just got some well-deserved time off to be a horse for a bit. He has come back to training thoroughly enjoying what he does and we can’t wait to see what he has to offer as a seven-year-old. There are no high expectations, we just want to let him enjoy doing what he is good at.”

Something doesn't make sense to me. Okay they want to bring him back to the track cause the owner is older and would rather watch the horse race. Why geld him if there was actually interest in standing him in Kentucky or anywhere, eventually? Gelding him at 7 isn't going to return him to his youthful form, I just don't see the point or reasoning behind it.

Very strange: I love Mighty Heart- follow all of his races-- I think they are just not being up front about his fertility- why else would they geld him? I don't like to see horses brought back to race after not being successful breeders. I think of George Washington and what a debacle and horror that was.

But that doesn't mean all horses brought back will be bad. Hopefully they'll give him a race and if he doesn't want to run then they'll retire him for good

[Curtis]

Something doesn't make sense to me. Okay they want to bring him back to the track cause the owner is older and would rather watch the horse race. Why geld him if there was actually interest in standing him in Kentucky or anywhere, eventually? Gelding him at 7 isn't going to return him to his youthful form, I just don't see the point or reasoning behind it.

Very strange: I love Mighty Heart- follow all of his races-- I think they are just not being up front about his fertility- why else would they geld him? I don't like to see horses brought back to race after not being successful breeders. I think of George Washington and what a debacle and horror that was.

But that doesn't mean all horses brought back will be bad. Hopefully they'll give him a race and if he doesn't want to run then they'll retire him for good

But would you say that horses being brought back this way is successful more or less than 50% of the time? I don’t have a problem with gelding him, but it should have been done when he was two if it was going to be done. Why manage a career around two testicles and the effects they have on the horse’s brain if you don’t have to?

[Danniwolfe]

Very strange: I love Mighty Heart- follow all of his races-- I think they are just not being up front about his fertility- why else would they geld him? I don't like to see horses brought back to race after not being successful breeders. I think of George Washington and what a debacle and horror that was.

But that doesn't mean all horses brought back will be bad. Hopefully they'll give him a race and if he doesn't want to run then they'll retire him for good

But would you say that horses being brought back this way is successful more or less than 50% of the time? I don’t have a problem with gelding him, but it should have been done when he was two if it was going to be done. Why manage a career around two testicles and the effects they have on the horse’s brain if you don’t have to?

That is what I don't get. Why wait that long to geld him. But horse racing isn't the only sport that has studs that go from breeding to working. Wonder why thoroughbreds suck coming back when other discipline do good to great.

[Curtis]

But that doesn't mean all horses brought back will be bad. Hopefully they'll give him a race and if he doesn't want to run then they'll retire him for good

But would you say that horses being brought back this way is successful more or less than 50% of the time? I don’t have a problem with gelding him, but it should have been done when he was two if it was going to be done. Why manage a career around two testicles and the effects they have on the horse’s brain if you don’t have to?

That is what I don't get. Why wait that long to geld him. But horse racing isn't the only sport that has studs that go from breeding to working. Wonder why thoroughbreds suck coming back when other discipline do good to great.

I think the live cover aspect with TB’s, has something to do with it. Also to race, horses have to be really aggressive. Once they lose that edge to compete, it’s hard to get it back. They may work well in the morning but racing is a different thing. This happens with geldings as well. They can work a hole in the wind and then just go through the motions in the afternoon.

[Starine]

Book'em Danno 'Outstanding' in Saudi Derby Preparations
https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing ... eparations